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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://gentlymadpress.com/blog/2008/04/15/4theluv-markets-and-the-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HLQ is on hold right now due to time constraints on my part.  I own a mid-sized corporation and it has taken up more of my time this year along with family obligations.  So it was either do HLQ half-assed and publish crap because I wouldn't have time to concentrate on submissions or hold off until I can find more time to do it correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HLQ is on hold right now due to time constraints on my part.  I own a mid-sized corporation and it has taken up more of my time this year along with family obligations.  So it was either do HLQ half-assed and publish crap because I wouldn&#8217;t have time to concentrate on submissions or hold off until I can find more time to do it correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar</title>
		<link>http://gentlymadpress.com/blog/2008/04/15/4theluv-markets-and-the-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but aren't most of those markets now defunct? Wait, isn't HLQ defunct now, too, because of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but aren&#8217;t most of those markets now defunct? Wait, isn&#8217;t HLQ defunct now, too, because of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Sizemore</title>
		<link>http://gentlymadpress.com/blog/2008/04/15/4theluv-markets-and-the-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Sizemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The industry needs to rally behind the paying markets and needs to take those who belittle their efforts to task"

Well said, Vince.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The industry needs to rally behind the paying markets and needs to take those who belittle their efforts to task&#8221;</p>
<p>Well said, Vince.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Liaguno</title>
		<link>http://gentlymadpress.com/blog/2008/04/15/4theluv-markets-and-the-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince Liaguno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great essay, Paul.  I would also add that writers and readers can also show their support of professional-paying print and online markets by spreading the proverbial word.  When we launched the non-fiction "Dark Scribe Magazine" in September of 2007, we had a business plan that included the resources to pay its writers professional rates for feature articles and interviews.  We've gone to great lengths to be author friendly, offering quick feedback, courtesy emails that keep writers in the loop on their submissions, and speedy payment that's offered both electronically and via snail mail.  Yet it'll amaze me to see some of the same people who (rightfully) jump on 4theluv markets take an easy potshot at DSM or another pro-pay market on various message boards. It demoralizes the magazines and their writers, it dimishes the professionalism with which the markets are conducting themselves, and it belittles the posters (some of whom are published authors themselves). The industry needs to rally behind the paying markets and needs to take those who belittle their efforts to task. Just my two cents on a great subject.
Vince
www.DarkScribePress.com
www.DarkScribeMagazine.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great essay, Paul.  I would also add that writers and readers can also show their support of professional-paying print and online markets by spreading the proverbial word.  When we launched the non-fiction &#8220;Dark Scribe Magazine&#8221; in September of 2007, we had a business plan that included the resources to pay its writers professional rates for feature articles and interviews.  We&#8217;ve gone to great lengths to be author friendly, offering quick feedback, courtesy emails that keep writers in the loop on their submissions, and speedy payment that&#8217;s offered both electronically and via snail mail.  Yet it&#8217;ll amaze me to see some of the same people who (rightfully) jump on 4theluv markets take an easy potshot at DSM or another pro-pay market on various message boards. It demoralizes the magazines and their writers, it dimishes the professionalism with which the markets are conducting themselves, and it belittles the posters (some of whom are published authors themselves). The industry needs to rally behind the paying markets and needs to take those who belittle their efforts to task. Just my two cents on a great subject.<br />
Vince<br />
<a href="http://www.DarkScribePress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.DarkScribePress.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.DarkScribeMagazine.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.DarkScribeMagazine.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Louise Bohmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise Bohmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Paul. This is a wonderful, informative, and objective essay every amateur should read (myself included).

Best Wishes,

Louise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Paul. This is a wonderful, informative, and objective essay every amateur should read (myself included).</p>
<p>Best Wishes,</p>
<p>Louise</p>
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		<title>By: Johaha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note:  there is a difference between being published and being printed. 

Being published  is what happens to the few who hone their craft and it often involves big sums of cash. 

Being printed can happen to any idiot who wants to see their words on a page and it usually involves no pay--or the so-called 'writer' paying someone to print their stuff. 

Hell, if you want to be printed, why go with 4thluv markets???? Just go to a printer or create your own fiction blog. It amounts to the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note:  there is a difference between being published and being printed. </p>
<p>Being published  is what happens to the few who hone their craft and it often involves big sums of cash. </p>
<p>Being printed can happen to any idiot who wants to see their words on a page and it usually involves no pay&#8211;or the so-called &#8216;writer&#8217; paying someone to print their stuff. </p>
<p>Hell, if you want to be printed, why go with 4thluv markets???? Just go to a printer or create your own fiction blog. It amounts to the same thing.</p>
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